tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post9158011939454563369..comments2023-09-27T07:40:50.535-07:00Comments on Mes Deux Cents: The Hill factor or the Bill factor?Mes Deux Centshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10697034868111011343noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-58622004525054832402008-01-11T19:46:00.000-08:002008-01-11T19:46:00.000-08:00Don,Lol, I like to debate with resonable people, I...Don,<BR/><BR/>Lol, I like to debate with resonable people, I don't know how good I am at it though.Mes Deux Centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10697034868111011343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-24454228050152398562008-01-10T16:48:00.000-08:002008-01-10T16:48:00.000-08:00Hmmm...I don't fully agree with your comment, but ...Hmmm...I don't fully agree with your comment, but I will say that you do have a point. <BR/><BR/>Mes, I bet you are a great debater, aren't you?Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02904024507867487521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-68132534371847274432008-01-09T22:04:00.000-08:002008-01-09T22:04:00.000-08:00Don,I disagree, I don't think anyone who knows any...Don,<BR/><BR/>I disagree, I don't think anyone who knows anything about politics underestimates Bill.<BR/><BR/>_____________________________________<BR/><BR/>e,<BR/><BR/>I know, those tears were worth a lot of votes it seems. LolMes Deux Centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10697034868111011343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-58373885914106885882008-01-09T19:21:00.000-08:002008-01-09T19:21:00.000-08:00double whamywomen felt like they could relate to t...double whamy<BR/><BR/>women felt like they could relate to the tears and wanted to support hill. bill lovers came out and voted.<BR/><BR/>blah<BR/><BR/>e.ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14518100141739150119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-85691949144234061112008-01-09T18:52:00.000-08:002008-01-09T18:52:00.000-08:00I have to say both Hill & Bill.Bill Clinton is a v...I have to say both Hill & Bill.<BR/><BR/>Bill Clinton is a very powerful influence. I think people tend to underestimate him.Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02904024507867487521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-69177284620965743092008-01-09T18:24:00.000-08:002008-01-09T18:24:00.000-08:00ClnMike,The good cop, bad cop thing might be it, b...ClnMike,<BR/><BR/>The good cop, bad cop thing might be it, but that's going to be hard to do in South Carolina, unless they play the race card.<BR/><BR/>_____________________________________<BR/><BR/>Villager,<BR/><BR/>You could be right about the Bradley effect. I thought it wouldn't be until the southern states that we would see that.<BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>Danielle,<BR/><BR/>Yeah it's going to be tricky being the "inspirational" candidate and handling negative attacks.<BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>Kawana,<BR/><BR/>Yep, Bill is definitely an important element in this race.<BR/><BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>Mango Mama,<BR/><BR/>I think Michigan and Nevada might be really difficult for Obama. That's going to be a true test of how good he is campaigning.<BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>Symphony,<BR/><BR/>You make a great point about Iowa and the "vote" being public. So we might be seeing the beginning of a trend as the race goes into the voting booth.<BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>Dark & Stormy,<BR/><BR/>Bill is, as most know, a superior politician. But that could backfire on Hillary if people begin to think of him as a puppet master.<BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>SheCodes,<BR/><BR/>I agree the polls got her people out to vote. Obama seemed so confident of a win some of his supporters may have stayed home.<BR/><BR/>I also think the cry factor played a part.<BR/><BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>NBW,<BR/><BR/>That's true; I bet Bill has a lot of favors owed him. I hadn't thought about that before.<BR/><BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>Liz,<BR/><BR/>And the media played up the picking on her factor too. Over the last couple of days I've seen that story over and over.Mes Deux Centshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10697034868111011343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-15792591133666639812008-01-09T17:36:00.000-08:002008-01-09T17:36:00.000-08:00I don't know which one it was, but I will say I st...I don't know which one it was, but I will say I started off feeling pretty neutral about Hillary. But now I can't stand her. The "fairytale" comment was offensive. And she plays up the "everybody's picking on me" thing waay too much. <BR/> <BR/>On the one hand it was a win, but in reality it was a tie. Neither NH or Iowa are winner takes all states so he gets nine delegates and so does she.Liz Dwyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17794296990587989214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-87657407193829012812008-01-09T15:46:00.000-08:002008-01-09T15:46:00.000-08:00I'm wondering if a lot of Obama supporters decided...I'm wondering if a lot of Obama supporters decided to support Clinton at the last minute.<BR/><BR/>If Obama wants to win the nomination, he needs to get develop some political back-slapping skills soon. The Clintons know politics and they know how to appeal to crowds. Plus, they have their roots deep in the Democratic Party.The Roving Reporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16172658008196704643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-47018928306659639682008-01-09T15:38:00.000-08:002008-01-09T15:38:00.000-08:00Neither one. People who vote in primaries are mor...Neither one. People who vote in primaries are more astute than that. <BR/><BR/>One of the reasons for Hillary's win is that her supporters were mobilized by Obama's decisive win in Iowa. People who previously would have sat on their butt got up and voted, 'cause they knew she was toast if they didn't.<BR/><BR/>Polls are a waste of time. Never pay any attention to them. If anything, they hurt people. Many Obama supporters believed that he was 'safe' with those polls, and failed to show up at the booth.SheCodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16781431886213930930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-72720424708872811092008-01-09T14:39:00.000-08:002008-01-09T14:39:00.000-08:00Definitely both. It was like a one-two punch combo...Definitely both. It was like a one-two punch combo that a boxer delivers to seal their KO.<BR/><BR/>The Clintons have not reached such heights in their careers by osmosis. They are super savvy at winning elections.<BR/><BR/>Obama & Edwards better pull out their golden gloves.Dark & Stormyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596589641965177442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-74670516604859727282008-01-09T13:31:00.000-08:002008-01-09T13:31:00.000-08:00Its not good cop/bad cop. She doesn't get to put u...Its not good cop/bad cop. She doesn't get to put up her hands and act like its not her. <BR/><BR/>In Iowa you stand in front of everyone. In NH, you have the privacy and you don't have the guilt.<BR/><BR/>As I said on my blog today. It was said that 84% of those who think highly of Obama voted for Clinton. <BR/><BR/>Anyone who knows me knows what I think of numbers. Art is more scientific than math. I don't know the percentage but I believe in that situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-32303015464417074912008-01-09T13:28:00.000-08:002008-01-09T13:28:00.000-08:00Isn't it interesting that "the man from Hope," is ...Isn't it interesting that "the man from Hope," is now discounting the power of hope? Obama better hold on tight, it's about to become a very bumpy ride.Mango Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02145025404228450871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-6270052548479003852008-01-09T13:24:00.000-08:002008-01-09T13:24:00.000-08:00This pic says 1000's of words lol.This pic says 1000's of words lol.Kawana Aminata Oliverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01935824964693487369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-78683051112820039742008-01-09T09:47:00.000-08:002008-01-09T09:47:00.000-08:00They know how the game is played. They are a very...They know how the game is played. They are a very politically sophisticated couple and have been there, done that. <BR/><BR/>It will be interesting to see how Barack Obama handles the escalating attacks and sure as I am me, they will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-64869016919714445472008-01-09T09:27:00.000-08:002008-01-09T09:27:00.000-08:00MDC --> I gave my thoughts in a post on my blog la...MDC --> I gave <A HREF="http://electronicvillage.blogspot.com/2008/01/hillary-clinton-wins-in-new-hampshire.html" REL="nofollow">my thoughts</A> in a post on my blog last night. I think that you are right about the reasons for her victory --> crying and Bill. However, I worry that the <I>Bradley Effect</I> is also in play.<BR/><BR/>peace, VillagerAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05001965827509309490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2842906968815125638.post-77599648998265264622008-01-09T07:27:00.000-08:002008-01-09T07:27:00.000-08:00Both.It looks like good cop bad cop.With Hill play...Both.<BR/><BR/>It looks like good cop bad cop.<BR/><BR/>With Hill playing good and Bill playing bad, pretty smart move, she cant be blamed for going on the offensive.<BR/><BR/>Say what you will but that is just good tatics right there.clnmikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14823690965555263694noreply@blogger.com