Monday, December 10, 2007

This just in: Isn't America Great....

Michael Vick gets 23 months in jail for dog fighting and R.Kelly gets to go on tour after being indicted over 5 years ago for molesting a teen-aged African American girl and filming it.

Doesn't this just make you so proud to be an American.

23 comments:

DJ Black Adam said...

Now that is on point. Killing dogs "bad", peeing on young black girls "not so bad".... :-(

Sad.

XotiqueJaz said...

It is a sad state of the justice system. Phil Spector was charged with murder and it took more than four years to go to trial - unfortunately it was a hung jury, time passes and it seems to diminish the crime in people's minds. Now he has a new lawyer and this one states he can't possibly be ready for trial until next October. Maybe he shouldn't have taken the case than.

In the R. Kelly case, I have heard many people say that this young girl was a willing participant and seem to think that "white" American is after him because he is a successful black man. Until we can have an open "honest" dialogue between the two races we won't make much progress.

As a white woman I find that whenever I say something about a black person that is in the news for something negative many black people defend them but when I say something about a white person that is in the news for negative reasons black people tend to agree.

Even using the term "black" is risky, I mean no disrespect to anyone and it is such an individual thing I never know what to say. When I refer to myself in a racial aspect I say white and do the same toward blacks; however, if I was to refer to a Native American as "red" I am sure I would never hear the end of it. So many people would be accusing me of being a racist even though many of those same people have never even met a Native American and I have two brothers who are Native American. Same Mom different Dad's.

I am glad you read your comments before you post them because I don't want to come off as a racist. This is more like an email because I like reading your blog. I love learning about all sorts of things and opening my mind to other people's situations, ideas, experiences, etc.
I am simply someone who cares about the state of America, the justice system (works for the wealthy) and am worried about the state of the world we live in.

Mes Deux Cents said...

DJBA,

It boggles my mind.



XotiqueJaz,

I want to publish your comment. You made really good points. Is that okay?

Torrance said...

yes it does, just like general amherst giving indians blankets infectd with small pox o the trail of tears, if he had molested or raped a child he would have gotten less time - nice blog chk me out sometime

e said...

my friends and I were just talking about this morning. it's ridiculous. and yet, we still support both. killing dogs is wrong, i get it. peeing on a teenager, and all the other mess that happened in that video, is also wrong. i'm down for black solidarity but can't support everything black celebrities do. *shrugs*

peace,
e.

Mes Deux Cents said...

Torrence,

You're right, he would have gotten less time. That's sad.




E,

I can't believe people are buying tkt's to see his concert. He's going to be in my area soon, just knowing he's going to be in the area makes me sick.


Thanks for stopping by

Lisa said...

MDC: What's taking so long with R Kelly, anyway? Do you think this has anything to do with the fact that the teenaged girl was black?

XotiqueJaz said...

MDC,

Please go ahead - hopefully anyone who reads it will know my heart. There are some really crazy comments left on blogs and unfortunately some disgusting racist ones that makes you wonder where these people get the idea that anyone wants to read that negativity.

Sage said...

This Mike Vick case has sparked lots of debates...this topic is on sooo many blogs (including mine LOL)!

Nice exchange here.

Sage

Mes Deux Cents said...

Lisa,

Yes unfortunately I do. It's the only conclusion I can come to. That and the fact that there is no one pushing for the trial to begin, Sharpton and Jackson are to busy worrying about 6 kids that beat up another kid and Mike Vick.

Sad isn't it.





XotiqueJaz,

We live in a country that only discusses race when there is a crisis. That's not the best time to discuss anything. Hopefully we will get to a point when we can calmly discuss race, then everyone can be more rational.

And about R.Kelly; I've heard people make those statements too about the victim. But a 14 or 15 year old girl by law cannot be a willing participant. So those people who say that are simply making excuses to make themselves feel better about supporting a pedophile.

Ehav Ever said...

One question I have on the R Kelly thing is how hard are the girl's parents pushing the judicial system? Did they get a lawyer? Are they suing him?

XotiqueJaz said...

I with you 100% on both accounts. Because she is black probably does have something to do with it not being prosecuted vigorously - if she had been white he would being doing time already.

And it does seem that we only talk about race relations when something big happens. It should be a continuing dialogue to make America a better country. We are great (if you can say that) because we have such diversity in our country.

Read your writings - loved the one about looking for the moon and finding loneliness. Reminded me of when I was in Italy and the cobbled streets. Good memories though!

Mes Deux Cents said...

Ehav,

I'm not sure about them suing since the criminal trial hasn't happened. I think that usually civil trials follow the criminal trial. It's easier to get a favorable verdict after all the evidence has come out.

I've only heard internet rumors about the parents. And the rumors haven't been good. Some say they have been indirectly paid off.




XotiqueJaz,

Wow I would love to visit Italy, especially Venice. I'll have to hurry though; I hear it's going to be under water soon. I hope they can save the city!

Thanks for the feedback on my writing, I really appreciate it.

Mes Deux Cents said...

Sage,

I read your post. I wanted to comment; but I didn't think I could add anything that hadn't been covered. It was interesting.

Jackie said...

Mike Vick disgusts me. R Kelly does too. Everything came down on Vick quickly and he seems to have learned some things. I am so sorry for this young athletes fall.
R Kelly's case for whatever reason is being dragged on forever. I like his music (I wish I didn't)but will never buy it and concert tix, no way.
Folks, R Kelly is a predator. Here in Chicago, I have seen his limo parked near high schools and high school hang outs. He blasts his music (cops have ticketed him and chased him away many times) and draws the kids. He makes me sick.

Liz said...

I'm watching MSNBC and Joe Scarborough just made the same point about child molestation and rape sentencing. Our delivery of justice in this country is so flawed.

Sage said...

@ MDC: Thanks for checking me out...

Mes Deux Cents said...

Jackie,

That is so disgusting that he lurks around high schools. Imagine what he does while he's out on tour.

Is there a lot of talk in the Chicago press about why he hasn't gone to trail yet?




Liz,

It's (our justice system) incredibly flawed. And when a society values dogs over humans then society is flawed as well.

Mes Deux Cents said...

Sage,

It was my pleasure.

Jackie said...

Here in Chicago, fans seem to be in a love him or hate him camp and some tweeners. There are the die hard supporters for "Kels" our home boy. Most vocal in this group are the women who blame the young girls more than Kelly. Somehow his fans see no relevant connection between these charges and his career. The press plays up any court date and then the story is gone. I don't really read his press much but it always points out how these charges have not hurt his career. The constant delays with his trial are almost expected now.

Mes Deux Cents said...

Jackie,

That is so crazy that people blame a girl. I've seen those kind of comments online too.

I have wondered if he is paying anybody off. It's just so long to not have gone to trial. Someone said today that if they don't go to trial soon the whole case could get thrown out.

clnmike said...

Sorry there is no comparison to me. R. Kelly is a child molestor. Vick is a knuckle head who has no business being in jail. To many real crimes in this world for me to get upset over Vick.

Mes Deux Cents said...

ClnMike,

The comparison is the delivery of justice. When it's about a dog, justice only takes 6 months. When it's about a Black girl, justice takes 6 years?

Also you make a good point, why is Vick in jail and R.Perv walks free?

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About Me

West Coast, United States
African American, Poet?, Vegetarian, Music lover, Agoraphobic, Social Phobic

My Favorite Poet

My Favorite Poet
Staceyann Chin

My Favorite Track Athlete

My Favorite Track Athlete
Christine Arron